Christian Terrorist Killed 94 People In Oslo Norway

We Often hear this statement by Anti Muslim elements that all Terrorists are Muslims but these elements are proved wrong once again by a Incident that taken place earlier this week. A Christian Terrorist named Anders Behring Breivik killed 94 People in Oslo City of Norway by Bombing and Firing.

Anders Behring Breivik belongs to Radical Christian Group. He calls himself a Crusader and claims that this attack was Necessary to stop Islamization of west. After this Incident Western Media is still showing its biased colors and not using word Christian Terrorist for this person and instead calling him Extremist, Criminal etc. If the same attack was done by a Muslim we would have seen massive Propaganda against Islam on Western Media.

Muslims are demonized by Western Governments

The Western Governments has focused too much on Muslims living in Western Countries in matters relating to terrorism that it has buried concerns over home-grown terrorism.

“The nature of the laws that we have already under the prevention of terrorism act... I wish it would be revised so that it is not discriminatory,” Noel Glynn told in an interview with a Iranian TV.

“So, as far as I am concerned, the anti-terrorism law is repressive.”

The European governments have been feeding fears of Islam through measures such as enforcing bans on face veils on the streets, all of which aimed at appeasing the non-Muslim majority about the continent's rising Muslim population.

Belgium has banned the Islamic face veil, for what authorities claim security reasons. France, which is house to the Western Europe's largest Muslim population, has a similar law, and Switzerland has banned new mosque minarets.

In Russia, the wall of a mosque in the town of Berezovsky was defaced overnight Friday with graffiti reading “Russia for Russians!” according to the website Islamnews.ru. In France, Muslim cemeteries are regularly vandalized.

“In fact there has been the demonizing of Muslims ever since 9/11, and that is wrong,” he said.

Glynn also stressed that a Muslim man will more likely be considered as a potential terrorist in comparison to a white man.

“I agree that the powers that be are putting more emphasis” on terrorist portraying themselves as Muslim, “but they shouldn't,” said the Noel Glynn.

Photos of Norway Attack

Here are Photos of Norway Incident that taken over 90 Lives.

Me Indian ... My India By a Indian Muslim Nisar Nadiadwala

The latest bomblast in Mumbai  reminds me the good relations that an overwhelming number of HIndus and Muslim enjoy in India inspite of mischievous elements in the our country.

 In Jan 1992 we were victims of post Babri Masjid Mumbai riots. We received a call from our neighboring shop keeper Hasu Bhai " Yusuf Bhai (brother) Your shop is completely burnt and there is nothing left.. please dont come here, it is dangerous..." For the next few months we were at home doing nothing. The neighbor who called up to inform us was a Gujrati Jain and a close friend of my father.  We received a call from the same neighbor.. He offered money to restructure our shop and the Mafatalal company's MD's P.A. calle dup and told us to restart the business with all help from the company.  We did it. In a month the shop was inaugurated. the Gujarati Jain came with his family and relatives bought good worth 50,000 thousand rupees to make us stand back. It was a memorable show of solidarity and I will never forget  that. Even today when I visit my father's shop I go to say a hello to my neighbor.

 During the same riots our second shop, which  was situated a couple of miles far from the first shop was also in danger. We feared that it too could meet the same face... The senior inspector of the Police Station... Mr. Doble (if I remember) a higher class Maratha with a great reputation of being non biased and non corrupt, moved around the area in his jeep and chased the crowd away when ever they gathered. Our shop was saved.

 During the late seventees Indian Express the famous National daily was alleged to be a mouth piece of R.S.S. .. but during the infamous Gujarat riots Indian express editor Vivek Goenka and  Shekhar Gupta got national award for covering riots in a totally non biased manner and also their reports were one of the main reasons for the Best bakery case to be given a high rated investigation...Last year when Shekhar Gupta came to  interview Dr Zakir Naik for 'Walk the Talk" I personally congratulated him  and thanked him for holding his ethics high in moral journalism.. and I prayed for his hidaya too...

 Again during the Mumbai 92 riots the Indian military caught a high profile politician known for his anti Muslim stance.. and arrested him. they refused to let him free even though he was a big man. Later that man even reached Loksabha .. but the military pursued the case and finally before the  man died few years back he was convicted!!!!!

 You will find many such jewels in the large and deep Indian ocean and that brings us to the conclusion of today's discussion...How many of us  remember this fact that after 11 Sept the Americans re elected George Bush in spite of  the killings of innocent Afghans and Iraqis.. Next year India had an election and the Indians (over whelming Hindu majority)  threw out the BJP government in elections and its allies in most of the states,and the outgoing Prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee said  we lost because of Gujarat riots.. and he was right..

And I conclude that India is a country of good people and we have 16 thousand +madrasas, pouring out hauffaz and aleem every year in thousands, and even Peace TV is run from India and not from any other 52 +Muslim nations...Right?

Over 90% Egyptians Not Wants Relations With Israel: Survey

Former Military Dictator in Egypt Hosni Mubarak was a US Puppet and was having strong relationship with Israel which benefited Israel greatly for decades.  Now Rule of  Hosni Mubarak has ended and people of Egypt are looking for a real change. Egyptians also wants to end ties with State of Israel.

According to a recent Survey that is done by synovate research group over 90% People of Egypt not wants relations with Israel.  in the Survey many other questions where also asked by Egyptians like do they want Muslim Brotherhood In Government? 25% People said yes while most of people opposed this idea.

Massive Really In Support of Gaddafi In Libya

Earlier this week a Massive Really taken place In Support of Gaddafi In Libya that was having millions of people. Here is a view of this rally.

Bringing True Reporting On Mumbai Blasts

By Ahmed Qureshi: Hours after the three consecutive blasts in India's Mumbai, our team of India analysts at PakNationalists.com released a brief report titled, Fearing Inside Job, India Plays Wise, So Far.

The crux of our argument was simple: India hasn't formally accused Pakistan yet for a very simple reason.

Almost all low-impact terror attacks in India in the past three years were the work of Indian extremists trying to increase pressure on Pakistan.

These new blasts come at a time when the United States has an interest in opening the Indian front amid tensions with Pakistan.

Our report was markedly different and our analysis was entirely based on recent cases from the Indian judicial system and reporting by major Indian news sources.  At a time when Indian and American news outlets were insinuating a Pakistani connection based on the November 2008 Mumbai attacks, our analysts wrote that eight serving and retired Indian military intelligence officers are under investigation for murdering 43 Pakistani goodwill visitors near New Delhi in 2007.  After that attack, the Indian government and British and American media outlets accused Pakistan's ISI of masterminding the attack to derail peace talks.

It turned out Indian military officers encouraged Hindu terror groups to kill Pakistani visitors and blame it on ISI. The sick plot was meant to keep the premier Pakistani spy service under pressure.

Between 2007 and 2009, Indian military officers organized similar attacks across India. And they were caught.

Our argument is that the Indian government was careful this time, fearing the three consecutive, low-impact blasts in Mumbai might have a similar objective, pushing India toward a confrontation with Pakistan at a time when the US is searching for every possible opportunity to raise the heat with Islamabad.

Now, more than 24 hours after the Mumbai blasts, the world media is increasingly picking up the angle that we floated, that the blasts are probably the work of domestic Indian terrorists, almost certainly linked to Hindu terror groups, with some prodding from extremist elements within Indian military.

[See the report here.]

Toyota full production is expected to recover in 3 months

The Japanese auto maker said production was recovering more quickly than expected after the earthquake and tsunami of March 11. Eight of the 12 Toyota models assembled in North America who returned to full production on June 6.

Supplying auto parts to manufacturers throughout the world was interrupted by the damage suffered by Japanese companies for the double disaster, or the subsequent lack of electricity.

Toyota Motor Corp. was among the hardest hit. In May reduced its production to 30% of normal and warned dealers that have shortages of some models during the summer.

Company officials said that after September, the automaker will focus on production to compensate for any possible.

I Read Holy Quran Everyday: Former British PM Tony Blair

Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair who played a major role in starting the Iraq War has said that i read Holy Quran Everyday. Tony Blair Came closer to religion after he resigned as  British Prime Minister Several years back.

Tony Blair Given a Interview to The Observer few days back in which he confessed that he reads the Holy Book of Muslims Quran almost everyday. Tony Blair also called Holy Quran a reforming book. He also said that its a book that contains knowledge of Science and rejects superstition.  Last Year Blair's Sister In Law  Lauren Booth was converted to Islam.  Tony Blair is not a much liked Person in Muslim World as he played major role in starting the war against Iraq. 

Yemen President Saleh Is Suffering From Throat Problem

A Yemeni official said on Tuesday in the Saudi capital Jeddah that President Ali Abdullah Saleh suffers from a throat ailment, although his general condition is stable.


Saleh is served in Riyadh, along with other government officials injured when a rocket exploded in the mosque where he prayed on 3 June in the presidential compound.

In a telephone conversation, the officer said he could not specify the nature of the disease in the throat and refused to be identified because of the sensitivity of the information.

The prime minister suffered severe burns and his condition is "tragic,''the official said. The President of the Shura Council is in critical condition, lost his left eye and transferred to London for treatment. A deputy prime minister lost his leg left and the other is stable.

Some Informative Videos on Zionism And Their Control On America

Here are Some Informative Videos on Zionism And Their Control On America By Dr David Duke.

Imran Khan Dharna In Karachi Against Drone Strikes Starting Today

Few weeks ago Pakistan Tehreek Insaf (PTI) organized a Dharna against US Drone strikes in Pakistan in Peshawar now Imran Khan is organizing a Dharna in Pakistan's largest City Karachi.

Imran Khan has announced to block Karachi Port as protest against American Drone attacks which have killed thousands of Civilians in Pakistani Tribal areas.

Nato Supplies goes from Karachi Port which will be blocked due to Dharna.  Imran Khan has asked People of Karachi to participate in the Dharna. He also demanded Pakistani rulers to take steps to stop American drone attacks.

Pakistan Treated As Hired Gun By America: Imran Khan

Pakistani Politician Imran Khan Interview to NDTV in which he talked about Pakistan, Osama and America.

Osama Bin Laden's Alleged Compound In Photos

Following you can see Photos of Osama Bin Laden's Alleged Compound.

Photos of Dead Osama Bin Laden Proves To Be Fake

Famous British Newspaper Guardian has confirmed that Photos of Dead Osama Bin Laden that are show on TV, Internet and Newspaper are actually fake and created by using a Computer Software.

 The Fake Photos are already available on Internet from couple of years.

On Monday US President Barack Obama announced the death of Osama Bin Laden in a operation by US Army but amazing thing is that no real photo or video of Osama's dead is released so far by US officials.

Benazir Bhutto Declared Osama Bin Laden Dead Years Ago

Former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto Declared Al Qaeda Leader Osama Bin Laden Dead Years Ago.

Photos of Osama Bin Laden

Following are Photos of Al Qaeda Leader Osama Bin Laden who according to American Government was killed on Monday.

April 2011 Also Turns Out To Be a Bad Month For US In Afghanistan

9 Years of US and Nato Invasion in Afghanistan are over and during these 9 years every tactic has been tried by US and Nato Forces to defeat the Afghan Taliban but they have failed to do so until now and there is also no chance of a win in future according to experts.
This month of April 2011 also turned out to be a bad month for Foreign Forces.

During this month more than hundred US and Nato Soldiers got killed in different Incidents. The biggest Incident taken place earlier this week when a Afghan Pilot opened fire on US Soldiers. In this incident 9 US Soldiers where killed while many others where Injured. During April 500 Taliban also ran away from a Jail in Kandhar.

Peace in Pakistani Tribal Areas and Afghanistan

which route the Pakistani nation should take? It is crystal clear that the reasons that tribals are fighting and supporting others in Afghanistan is something that is out of the control of the Pakistani government. Pakistan can only request the US to leave Afghanistan but they will leave on their own accord.

What Pakistan cannot afford to do is to give the US a reason to keep on coming in and bombing civilian areas inside of Pakistan.

To make a long story short, Pakistan is faced with two problems...

a) People going into Afghanistan from Pakistan.
b) US attacks inside of Pakistan to stop the flow of such people.

Now if the same people turn their guns against Pakistan for trying to stop them, then what is the Government of Pakistan to do? Simply lay down their weapons and allow these people to carry on with their activities inside of Afghanistan?

If the answer is YES - then American attacks will become a daily part of our lives and there will be no end to it.

If the answer is NO- then talk by all means, but only from a position of strength. In order to do so, the militants also need to be pressurized by force.

Most people understand that a long insurgency in the heart of the Pashtun lands is of no benefit to Pakistan. However if Pakistan does not try to get these folks to limit their activities, then Pakistani nation as a whole will have to pay.

So either you try to save Pakistan or you damage Pakistan for the cause of the Afghan liberation.

which route the Pakistani nation should take?


LaWaNgEeN
you damage Pakistan for the cause of the Afghan liberation.
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huhhh,,konsi liberation,,everyone has their own interests.


Farhan Chaudhry
border seal karne mai kya takleef hai US ko kisi ne aj tak meri is baat ka jawab nahi diya
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kya rozana drone attacks aur military aid jo Pakistan ko dee jati hain us se ziada paisa lagey ga border seal karne mai ?


Farhan Chaudhry
n mat bhulo sirf idher se loog nahi jatey udher se bhi idher aa kar karwaiyan kar ke afghanistan bhaag jatey hain hamain bhi faida hai border seal karne ka kitni bar bait ullah mehsood afghanistan bhaga aur SWAT operation ke time bhi bohat se terrorists bhaag kar afghanistan chaley gaye
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border seal karna hi best solution hai

Awesome Khan
Its not easy sealing a border of thousands of miles, Farhan.

@HMX, i've been waiting a LONG time for a thread like this from you, bro. This is going to be interesting.


Hussain
the answer is NO- then talk by all means, but only from a position of strength. In order to do so, the militants also need to be pressurized by force[2]


Awesome Khan
The US - the strongest policing force around - can't even control its OWN borders against illiterate Mexicans.

You think Pakistan can?


Farhan Chaudhry
Its not easy sealing a border of thousands of miles, Farhan.


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thousands? :O sirf agencies ke sath border seal kar dain to masla adhey se ziada khatem ho jaye ga balochistan ke sath na bhi ho to itna issue nahi jitna idher hai
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aur kitne years hogaye drone attacks ko aur kitne years hogaye military aid daite huway US Ko ye easy hai ?


Farhan Chaudhry
wahan ye halaat hain jo afghan border per face karne parte hain ? ap 1 fenced border ko 1 khulley border se compare nahi kar sakte jahan koi puchne wala hi nahi


Farhan Chaudhry
hum stand lain to US hamain burger bana kar kha nahi jaye ga :P PAF easily attack karne ki capability rakhti hain pressurize karain US Ko drone technology lain nahi to jo aata hai ura dain n ab koi rehman malik wali bongi na marey high altitude ki waja se hum drone ko nahi rok sakte :D
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khud attack karain terrorist camps per I'm damn sure PAF jab karwai karey gi civilian casualties minimum ho jain gi aur Tribal elders per "ghaliti" se attack nahi hoga.


Agent HMX
Apart from Money, we have several other issues related to border fencing.

To keep the things in perspective - Pakistan put forward a proposal to create a 10 Km exclusion zone along the Pak-Afghan border. Where both Pak army and ISAF can operate freely to keep the infiltrators in check.

The proposal was supported by several NATO countries (canada, turkey etc) as it reduces the chance of cross border infiltration and gives flexibility to both ISAF and Pak Army.

But MMA opposed it - that gave the US and Afghan government the cards to drop the proposal.

As for drone tech - USA has not shared this technology with any of its allies. Even Brits and NATO allies.

Secondly, predators and Rapiers are connected with USAF JSTARS satellites based command and control system and even if Pakistan gets Predator it will need huge investment to make remote monitoring and control of Predator similar to what CIA-US Army are currently doing..

So Pakistan has to come with its own.


Agent HMX
Inshort - political and financial limitations.

M-M
I think the proposal about fencing the border should be tabled again,carefully preplanned to make sue no sentimental bullshit will hijack it this time around .. we can get the money from nato and their allies




Agent HMX
I agree - But - As far as I know - ANP thinks that this step would split Pashtuns..:P In other words, the both MMA, and ANP have same opinion.

Besides border fencing is not the solution of this problem.

(I'm just stating the simple facts)


M-M
Pakistan lives (and that too majorly pashtuns) are more precious than this so called ethnic split,fencing is not entire solution but it nonetheless is part of solution


Yawar.Rave Diger
HMX
What a thread. Gosh.


Hats off.


Yawar.Rave Diger
If the answer is YES - then American attacks will become a daily part of our lives and there will be no end to it.


If this is going to happen, then rest assured that drone attacks will further increase. Not only in their strikes, but in distance as well. They will come well inside Pakistan. Well well inside Pakistan.


The fact is simple. We don't have many options. We have to attack them, and put them on the back foot, from all positions.

Those who say that militants are also under our control, fully, are also living in lala lands.


Cheers2Hell
Afghanistan is our past, present and future . We can not jeopardize our long term interests with Afghanistan because of short term interests of a super power . Pushtoons must be truly integrated in the future political system of Afghanistan and Northern Alliance should not be used as a proxy against Pushtoons by world super power . A stable and prosperous Afghanistan is in the best interest of Pakistan but not at the cost of Indian dominance on Kabul.


Troll
//Afghanistan is our past, present and future . We can not jeopardize our long term interests with Afghanistan because of short term interests of a super power . Pushtoons must be truly integrated in the future political system of Afghanistan and Northern Alliance should not be used as a proxy against Pushtoons by world super power . A stable and prosperous Afghanistan is in the best interest of Pakistan but not at the cost of Indian dominance on Kabul. //



In short; Support Taliban.


Cheers2Hell
In short; Support Taliban

Taliban is also a synonym for Pushtoon resistance against allied forces in Afghanistan.
If US , Russia , India , Iran, Turkey etc can support Northern Alliance , why cant Pakistan support their rivals to safe guard our own interests.


Yawar.Rave Diger
C2h
what are we fighting against then?


Now coming to the solution, Pakistanis at large are delusional, it seems like for all those years ..Pakistan has never been a priority for Pakistanis but all sorts of vague terms like religion, brotherhood, pakhtuns, afghan liberation and wat not. Pakistan seems like a forgotten case here. And to be honest politicians (ALL of them particularly IK, JI and likes) arent doing any favours to this blind nation.

So i would just rest my personal opinion here...and tht is....opt for the route tht would keep Pakistan intact...and for tht sacrifices should be given and Afghani brotherhood should be dismissed. Abt time we set our priorities right...things wont be IDEAL either way but we have to choose our interest and act selfish like the rest of the world.


Cheers2Hell
We are fighting for our survival and to avoid becoming a victim of 'The New Great Game'


Ahsan
Who cares about afghani brotherhood? I have said this before as well; Afghanistan as a whole should be bombed back to stoneages.


Troll
C2H
//If US , Russia , India , Iran, Turkey etc can support Northern Alliance , why cant Pakistan support their rivals to safe guard our own interests. //


1. Morally wrong. I'm not paying taxes so that we can support cavemen cutting off noses of woman in Afghanistan.

2. Even if we assume for sake of argument that these taliban are really nice people, I still won't support the idea of supporting taliban. Why? Because that will make uncle sam very angry. What do you think is the end of all this if it goes as according to our plan? USA will again sanction Pakistan as a punishment for playing double game. And we have to bear these sanctions for what? "friendly government" in Afghanistan? Do a cost benefit analysis and you will realize that we are better off with having northern alliance in Afghanistan but good relations with USA!


Cheers2Hell
Kindly excuse my poor English grammar skills (:


Ahsan
why cant Pakistan support their rivals to safe guard our own interests.

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So simply put, you want Pakistan to support Taliban hoping that they will protect us against all the other powers? the group of people who are already murdering thousands of people based on same religion and ethnicity - how do you expect them to cooperate with Pakistan? dude, dont be delusional.
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Yawar.Rave Diger
C2H
We are fighting for our survival and to avoid becoming a victim of 'The New Great Game'


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But if we are to protect the Taliban like you mentioned, then why fight them?

Where do we draw the line? Which is the point where we try to strike a balance?


Why fight them? Or better, what point to which we fight them?


I mean, it does not make sense. At one point you say protect interest, and then we also fight them?


Farhan Chaudhry
n what exactly is that? i mean the great game? 1 myth ye bhi hai ke arab mai jitne revolution aa rahe hain wo CIA sponsored hain :P aur 2012 mai 1 tehreek Pakistan mai start hogi so kya hai ye great game ? :P n new great game n old great game mai kya difference hai ?


Troll
C2H and Yawar
And more importantly; What is a friendly government in Afghanistan supposed to achieve for Pakistan in the first place?


Sure it's nice to have friendly governments in your backyard, but AT WHAT PRICE?


The ire of the USA? Is that a price we should pay for having a "friendly government" in Afghanistan?

Sounds retarded to me!


Cheers2Hell
US consider ISI a terrorist organization similar to Hamas and Hezbollah and Pakistani call ISI an American proxy .... so where should WE draw a line .... thats a Gazillion dollar, euro.Rs, Yuan or whatever currency question .


Yawar.Rave Diger
C2H
I will be blunt here sir.

YOU are part of this fight, in its actual sense. And even you dont know where to draw the line, and the reason you are fighting it?


Troll
Why can't Pakistanis realize that not having good relations with EU and USA is very very harmful? Especially, when you have enemies like India whoally, when you have enemies like India who are several times your size?


What do you want to starve to death but keep "strategic death"?


Yawar.Rave Diger
Our largest trading partners:

EU and US.


Cheers2Hell
im fighting because during our passing i took an oath of allegiance under flag of Pakistan which bounds me to go to any place by land, air and sea when ordered by the supreme authority of pakistan


Troll
C2H and Yawar
Not just largest trading partners but we register HUGE trade surplus with EU and US!


Warna to middle east ke saath bhi buhut trade hai but then woh saara drain ho jaata hai because of oil import.

Basically if our exports to EU and US were to reduce it would create huge imbalance in our trade account.

Aur phir sub se ziada FDI aur FPI bhi yahin se aati hai.


Tell me this C2H, Pakistan Iran ki tarha bun jaye?


Ahsan
Peace of Pakistan and Afghanistan is connected with each other. there can't be any peace until US Is present in Afghanistan. There is  needs of a Pakistan friendly Government is Afghanistan free of US and Indian Influence.

Famous Pakistani Actor Moin Akhtar Photos

Following are Photos of Famous Pakistani Actor Moin Akhtar.